The White Lotus (HBO not so Limited Series) (1 Viewer)

Daphne turned out to be fascinating (and a very successful if unconventional sex therapist).
 
If French and Saunders still did TV shows there's no way they wouldn't spoof this with Jennifer as Jennifer.
 
I feel bereaved, I was really rooting for her after the rampage :cry:

I hope Greg meets his carmic demise in Mauritius or Asia or wherever next season :disco: the White Lotus will get its due!
 
I was listening to an interview today with him and he was talking about gays and the way they idolize certain women but also love to see them suffer.
 
Is it the same Mike White that got second on US Survivor a few years back? He was involved in the TV industry and a gay so I’m guessing yes.

I do need to watch this, it seems right up my alley.
 
Devil said:
Is it the same Mike White that got second on US Survivor a few years back? He was involved in the TV industry and a gay so I’m guessing yes.

I do need to watch this, it seems right up my alley.
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Yes it's him.
 
This is the interview I was talking about

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Mike White on the Inevitable "Tragedy" of That Finale

In a wide-ranging interview, ‘The White Lotus’ creator breaks down the relationships at the core of Season 2, what may lie ahead for next season, and what he thinks of all those fan theories
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Before the season premiered you told The Guardian that the character you most identify with this season is Quentin (Tom Hollander). Previously you named Armond (Murray Bartlett) as the Season 1 character you identify with. What should we think about these characters you identify with dying at the end of your seasons of television?

The reason I said I relate to Quentin is because I feel like I was doing to Jennifer what Quentin was doing to Tanya. I wanted to bring her to Italy. It was like, “Jennifer, what kind of things do you wanna do?” She’s like, “It’d be just great to be on a Vespa.” I mean, literally some of the dialogue that we used in the show. I want her to have this great sendoff. But I’m always heading to kill her. Let’s give her this bravura story line, she gets to do all these fun things in Italy and wear cool clothes, but then also there’s a part of me where I’m torturing her.

he has seasickness and she doesn’t like to be on boats. Both in the first season and second season she’s been on a boat. There are times when I’m like, “Am I her guardian angel, or am I her little devil?” It actually speaks to something I’m trying to get at a little bit with the story line in the show: gay men’s infatuations with certain kinds of women. I think there’s a little bit of sadism in it. Women that are classically divas for gay guys, like Judy Garland, they also like to see them suffer. There’s a pleasure to watching women’s pain, if it’s done in the right way: The idea of a woman who’s been disappointed in love and then she finds these great gay guys and she’s going to have this How Stella Got Her Groove Backmoment, but they really are there to torture her.

So, anyway, it makes me sound like I am diabolical. Maybe I am. But as a director, I’m setting up this whole thing and it feels like Quentin was doing that too. He probably feels bad about, you know, killing her, so he’s going to justify it by giving her a big party, she’s gonna get laid and then … you know.
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Phoenix said:
Same for Daphne and Ethan having that talk, it kinda encapsulates everything about Daphne and mirrors Rachel from the end of last season.
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Rachel was a total loser. Daphne is an infinitely better, richer character (and not just monetarily). the beach scene with Ethan was the singular best scene of the final episode and she also had probably the other best scene of the season too, with Harper in ep 5. I think she's my overall MVP. absolutely exquisite acting. :disco:
 
anyway brilliant brilliant finale. so hard to pull off an hour of TV like this and for it not to disappoint after all the build-up, but I think it was achieved. some stories simmered down, some boiled over, but everybody I feel had the character arc they deserved. it's especially gratifying because the season 1 finale was ultimately a damp squib and I'm so glad this (vastly superior) season got the climax it really deserved. an absolute edge-of-seat finale from beginning to end. beautiful stuff.

I think I said it before but I really liked, at a minimum, every character in season 2 (except Jack obv). they were less cartoonish, I was rooting for them more, Harper and Daphne in particular. the writing across the board was much stronger. I think it's the best show since Big Little Lies. these high-end gays really know how to do TV.

one final thought - I was fucking CACKLING and SCREAMING at the audacity of Portia finding out her boss is dead, immediately taking Albie's number, and then the cut to Lucia and Mia going SHOPPING. :D :D :disco:! this show is the fucked up, twisted, 21st century equivalent of a dark fairytale.
 


I guess we saw the Golden Globe nominations already? Aubrey Plaza deserves it but so does Meghann Fahy I think.

LIMITED SERIES SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Jennifer Coolidge, The White Lotus
Aubrey Plaza, The White Lotus

LIMITED SERIES SUPPORTING ACTOR
F. Murray Abraham, The White Lotus
 
The Golden Globes are very much meaningless. They just went with the recognizable names. F Murray Abraham barely did anything noticeable.
 
Didn’t the Emmies nominate all the female characters from the first season?
 
Phoenix said:
The Golden Globes are very much meaningless. They just went with the recognizable names. F Murray Abraham barely did anything noticeable.
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I thought he low key had some great scenes during the serious conversations. but this season wasn't about the men.
 
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