I had to stop it and go back because I couldn't believe what I just watched, that was everything.the way it started with a queen transforming from a car on stage
You know, as I watch it on Rula TV, I get the version with subtitles, and sometimes I'm more focused on how they translate everything than the episode itselfOh and this just in from MARICON WATCH
This week I believe that WOW+ translated every instance of maricon/es as bitch/es. They also fully capitalised LIP SYNC every time it was said, which was slightly distracting!
EDIT: I loved when one of the Javis made the pun "Putankhamun" for Venedita's look, particularly as our friends at WOW+ decided the most appropriate translation for that was "Slut King"
Some of them have personal issues, Jota seems to dislike EVERYBODY but these passional readings getting very personal is also very made in Spain, so no shock thereOMG just remembered the reading challenge Maybe it was the translation but it seemed like some of them were being really bitter and personal! Sharonne just batting back all the weak reads and destroying anyone trying to come gor her was quite fabulous.
Btw, The Canary Island queen, Sethlas, related how she had her Elena's El Diablo moment with some fanatic Christians after him because of the performance that made her win the Canary Islands Carnival, which is massive there. This was VERY polemic here back in the day, and watching it you can tell why
I had to google it because I had no idea. The show where Rula L**** did it is "Your face sounds familiar", which is for famous people (the irony with R*** there ) so it can't be that one, unless it was the edition for unknown people, I don't know. Anyway, blackface is fine here, there is no racist connotations and we don't have a tradition of black people here so we're not taking the piss at all, there is no bad intention. It's true that lately people are suddenly very concerned about it because we have to import every fucking thing from USA, so if it's bad there, it has to be bad here even when the context is totally different and it makes no sense.Earlier that day I'd read about how Sharonne did blackface on TV relatively recently (I believe on the same show that R*th L also did it, @Alla to confirm) so when the puppet came out I did feel a bit , but thankfully it wasn't anywhere near as dodgy as it COULD have been.
We have our own traditions, like the 3 Wisemen that bring the presents for Xmas (that old hammered man was never that popular here), one of them is black, so in every single town is Spain we do full blackface every single Xmas, since forever, because there were no black people here. In recent decades that we are more open to the world (we had 40 years of dictatorship) there are more POC here so in many places we have a proper black man incarnating the black wiseman for the parade. But think this happens in every single village, and the wisemen pay a fortune to do it (it's a big honor, specially in big cities), so they have to do blackface.But it is still wrong in any context really.
A "recent" history of black slavery, I'm not talking about what happened 500 years ago which is AWFUL, probably more terrible than anything ever. But that's a different story that has nothing to do with blackface.Spain doesn’t have a history of slavery?! That’s news to me.
Which centuries are you talking about? Just to put this in context.Even a very rudimentary Googling reveals that Spain has its own, centuries-old practice of minstrelsy. If it’s not a big deal in Spain, that might just suggest that the discourse isn’t developed enough there.
Which centuries are you talking about? Just to put this in context.
Bev, the US didn't even exist when Spain (and other countries) were doing all kind of terrible things. CENTURIES AGO. Of course the origin of everything is here, but how does that have anything to do with what I'm talking about? I don't understand the need to see everything from that point of view. Anyway, I have stuff to do, have a good day. x
Excuse me sir, I NEVER claimed blackface here has never a racist background, how am I gonna say that, specially in 2022 when everybody is f*cking insane? We were talking about "Your face sounds familiar" and programmes like that, and I explained it with our Xmas tradition to give some context of blackface in Spain. Of course it doesn't mean there aren't some horrible people doing wrong things, I can confirm that and I would give you examples, the recent rise of one of the most racist political parties is worrying and terrifying. But I was talking about what I was talking about, don't twist my words for your interest or to picture me as an ignorant, thank you very much. xI like you, Alla, and you can claim what you want. But if I can find objections from Spanish organisations about racist blackface in the culture, your insistence that no such sentiment exists is either lazy or deliberately ignorant. Kisses!