Conclave

[Finn]

You'd think Ralph Fiennes as a Cardinal would be the driest thing ever, but I loved this. QUITE CAMP! Essentially Succession, but with the pope.

Has anyone else here seen it?

 

[Jark]

gagging to see this! looks hot! I saw it described as a high camp thriller and that's the very least I expect

 

[VoR]

Just saw this, and without giving anything away I really wasn’t expecting it to go THERE

 

[rhythmbandit]

Just saw this, and without giving anything away I really wasn’t expecting it to go THERE

Neither was I and the gasps it drew from the largely elderly crowd I was surrounded by was rather amusing.

 

[Finn]

It had been getting increasingly bonkers, but that was full-on Footballers Wives territory and I LOVED IT

 

[VoR]

I had SO MANY QUESTIONS

 

[Lonely Sardophony (We Will Be Free)]

Just saw this as part of a cheaper Monday offering at the local cinema. Like everyone else in this thread I was expecting a boring drama. Instead it was like an episode of "Dynasty" set in the Vatican The twist had me GAGGED.

Ralph was great - I haven't seen the Brody film, but if Ralph had got the Oscar, we would have been spared that insufferable speech.

Isabella Rossellini was more of a cameo with lots of LOOKING STERN, but the few bits of dialogue she got were all

Way better than I ever expected it would be.

 

[Jark]

I'd give this an 8. it was very middlebrow and I really enjoyed it, but for the absurdity of how the conclave concluded (and the bizarre final twist that came from NOWHERE) it loses a point.

also how was Isabella nominated for the Oscar please? I kept waiting for some kind of scene that would make sense of that.

the scene where Lawrence goes to tell Cardinal Adayemi he'll never be Pope and Adayemi breaks down crying was very affecting. overall good stuff. but the ending didn't land properly.

 

[AGinAg (38)]

This really was just OH SO VERY CAMP.

 

[Ha-lucy-nation]

This was SO SILLY

 

[Ha-lucy-nation]

I thought the clinic was going to be for DRUG ADDICTION!

 

[Ha-lucy-nation]

Will be disappointed if the upcoming conclave doesn’t feature a LOVE CHILD, BRIBERY, EXPLOSIONS and a TRANS-MASC CANDIDATE.

 

[ZjermGiraffe]

I started this but lost interest pretty quickly. Who became pope?

 

[Ha-lucy-nation]

The surprise entrant from KABUL! Also he may have had no Y chromosome.

 

[ZjermGiraffe]

I just skimmed the Wikipedia article.

What NONSENSE.

 

[Ha-lucy-nation]

And I just paid £5.99 to watch it*



*accidentally charged Dad’s card

 

[Ha-lucy-nation]

Never imagined a Cardinal smoking before but I guess if I was 100% certain there was an afterlife I’d be straight back on the fags tomorrow.

 

[Ha-lucy-nation]

also how was Isabella nominated for the Oscar please? I kept waiting for some kind of scene that would make sense of that.

So confused by this also! Were there no other female performances this year?

 

[Ellie]

So confused by this also! Were there no other female performances this year?

Margaret Qualley was clearly snubbed. And hers was certainly more of a supporting performance than Zoe Saldana.

 

[cwej]

Just watched it and enjoyed it a lot but bloody hell how did Rossellini get anywhere near a nomination for an Oscar? She did absolutely nothing - probably the least deserving nomination I’ve ever seen!

The twist at the end… well I never saw that coming!! (Though I did see that he was gonna be the eventual winner from about 10 minutes in).

 

[cwej]

Margaret Qualley was clearly snubbed. And hers was certainly more of a supporting performance than Zoe Saldana.

Qualley was great, but I’d still have gone for Michele Austin for Hard Truths as it deserved at least one nomination.

 

[VoR]

I got more out of Rossellini’s performance on the second viewing. If you go in waiting for her big Oscar scene to happen, you’ll definitely be quite nonplussed, but she is quite a palpable presence throughout the film.

To be honest I think our perceptions have been warped by the routine category fraud these days where obvious lead or co-lead performances are shoved into Supporting. In the past you would get people like Beatrice Straight and Gloria Grahame winning for really brief appearances.

Just looking at the Supporting Actress nominees this century, these jump out as equally or less impactful than Rossellini’s:

Ruby Dee - American Gangster (Yes she has the slapping Denzel scene but it comes out of nowhere and for the rest of the movie she’s practically MUTE. And she almost won!)

Judi Dench - Shakespeare In Love (Even she acknowledges this win was a crock)

Jackie Weaver - Silver Linings Playbook (For me the most egregiously silly. I didn’t like that film much anyway, but she’s practically an extra!)

 

[Ellie]

Judi Dench wasn’t this century

I agree with Jackie Weaver (one hilarious scene “WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOUR MARRIAGE”?).

Ruby Dee - Meh. That whole film was meh.

But yeah, looking at the last 25 years, the majority of nominated performances have been borderline leads. A fav of mine is Virginia Madsen in Sideways, but that was only because there was no female lead. More recently Regina King’s winning role in If Beale Street Could Talk has the perfect balance, as well as Laura Dern in Marriage Story.