Club Ghibli #13 - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)

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It's back to the 00s for Club Ghibli, as we step back into the Miyazaki canon. Dear Sister @Haiku kindly hand-plucked this relatively late-game blockbuster from our dwindling supply.

2004 saw Studio Ghibli capitalising on its biggest international breakthrough. 2001's "Spirited Away" had won the Best Animated Feature Oscar in 2003, and while "The Cat Returns" had already had its domestic release, "Howl's Moving Castle" was to be the international follow-up.

Like "Arrietty", "Howl" was an adaptation of a British novel, and has no shortage of European imagery. It tells the story of a mild-mannered milliner, dowdy Sophie, who is cursed by a witch and ends up wrapped in a plot of intrigue and espionage involving war, magic and the titular wizard - a flamboyantly emotional character determined not to be made a pawn of the military. Miyazaki said the story was fuelled by his opposition to the 2003 Iraq war, which is cute since production started in 2001 :eyes: Although intriguingly it wasn't meant to be a Miyazaki-directed work, now-superstar director Mamoru Hosoda was the original director, leaving due to creative differences. Hosoda has been circling around an animation Oscar recently too, and I'm gagging to do a deep dive on his work.

"Howl's Moving Castle" was a huge smash, and still remains the 8th biggest grossing movie at the Japanese box office, and even that is only the 3rd highest Ghibli movie (behind Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke). It also means that there has not been a bigger Ghibli movie in Japan or worldwide since.

BTW while I was googling about this, I found out that Arrietty is bizarrely the biggest grossing Ghibli movie in the US, bonkers.



HOW THIS WORKS
In a semi book club format, the films will be announced, and over the course of about 2 weeks we can watch it and let everyone know what we thought. I'll nominate someone to pick the next film each time, but maybe let's try not to blow all the famous ones first!
I was thinking 2 weeks should be enough time for most people to fit in a viewing at some point, but it's not strict so please come back when you have a chance, no pressure!
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This one I know of course :disco: I will fit in a viewing because it was a blast the first time.

I didn't know Hosoda was going to do this, I love his movies, I've seen a majority of them and he'd definitely have had an interesting take on this but what we got was brilliant so I shan't quibble.
 
This one I know of course :disco: I will fit in a viewing because it was a blast the first time.

I didn't know Hosoda was going to do this, I love his movies, I've seen a majority of them and he'd definitely have had an interesting take on this but what we got was brilliant so I shan't quibble.

I really need to catch up on Hosoda. Annoyingly all his are on Japanese Netflix but only with Japanese subtitles :|
 
I have seen this film twice and both times I've thought it was a bit of a HOT MESS. It's my LEAST LIKED MIYAZAKI probably tied with The Wind Rises :shock:

Like there's a lot in it that I should love, its surrealism, the plot, the interesting characters, the TRANS subtext etc. but I just don't think it quite gels together. Maybe it's the dub though, as I don't think I've seen this with subtitles on!
 
Oh I've seen this one. Wonderful, of course. Both Ghibli movies that I've seen are 10s, I have no idea why I've not watched more but you can file them next to all those other classic films I'm yet to see, maybe when I've retired...
 
Oh I've seen this one. Wonderful, of course. Both Ghibli movies that I've seen are 10s, I have no idea why I've not watched more but you can file them next to all those other classic films I'm yet to see, maybe when I've retired...
What was the other one?
 
I have seen this film twice and both times I've thought it was a bit of a HOT MESS. It's my LEAST LIKED MIYAZAKI probably tied with The Wind Rises :shock:

Like there's a lot in it that I should love, its surrealism, the plot, the interesting characters, the TRANS subtext etc. but I just don't think it quite gels together. Maybe it's the dub though, as I don't think I've seen this with subtitles on!

I think I’m there with you on the dub, same with Arrietty, I might have only seen the dub, and it just feels weird for me. Mainly because they nearly always go for stunt casting instead of people who know how to do the best with voice acting
 
I did see it again, thought it was just as beautiful as before. I think, of all Ghibli, this has the best music, a really brilliant leitmotif that sticks in your head and very easy to keep whistling and not get tired of it.

The worldbuilding, man, the worldbuilding. I don't know the original novel and I've heard that this film was a departure from it with especially all the anti-war messaging, but that's a message I really appreciate and comes across very effectively here, the war is something that we do not see a viewpoint of except when it affects the main characters in tragic ways.

Sophie is one of Miyazaki's best protagonists, a forceful driver of action after taking her 'curse' of becoming old and using it to find her new purpose in life, sorting out Howl's life. Plus silver hair really suits her. The rest of the characters are a very colourful bunch, almost to the point of absurdity but then this whole world is delightfully unexplained beyond what is necessary. We see what's important to the characters and not much else, it feels tight that way.
 
I did watch this but didn’t have time to type it up, can I do it on my phone?

Short version : I’m glad people like it but in my heart of hearts I found it a bit lacking, I didn’t think all of the necessary things were explained enough to give it enough weight.
 
Ok well I might as well.

The music was lovely as usual, I often hear the main theme used on Tiktok and randomly it was played in a small local museum that was totally empty bar me, so it was sort of a moment.

The art was gorgeous but the increased use of CGI started to take something away from it for me. And it’s a matter of taste but I thought the castle itself was quite horrid :D

I didn’t really get into the main characters, it felt a bit Ghibli by numbers. Sophie kind of got on my tits, just fluctuation between self loathing, and getting on with things and suddenly getting angry, I didn’t feel like she meshed together.

The story just sort of pootled along but didn’t take me in the way their other ones do, I guess because they were trying to make a grand-scale story about war and love.

No idea what the war was about, just WAR BAD and at the end the baddy(?) just went “well shit, never mind let’s stop this silly war”, and the turnip was a prince and sure whatever.

For me, Ghibli works when either there’s a high stakes story, or a totally no stakes story, but this was rather confused about which one it was trying to be.
 
Oh oh and I was thinking tbh it felt like a later draft of that batshit story that girl was writing in Whisper of the Heart about the Baron :D
 
I have seen this film twice and both times I've thought it was a bit of a HOT MESS. It's my LEAST LIKED MIYAZAKI probably tied with The Wind Rises :shock:

Like there's a lot in it that I should love, its surrealism, the plot, the interesting characters, the TRANS subtext etc. but I just don't think it quite gels together. Maybe it's the dub though, as I don't think I've seen this with subtitles on!

Trans subtext? Tell me more :o I didn’t really get that at all (among other minor things like the plot)
 
Oh oh and I was thinking tbh it felt like a later draft of that batshit story that girl was writing in Whisper of the Heart about the Baron :D
They certainly seem to be on similar wavelengths.

I really liked the mishmash of several things going on, helps sell it more as a message film with the war as this big ALLEGORY. I mean, yes, the turnip was a little bit out of left field but with the war as the backdrop to the main story I didn't entirely mind its quick there and done conclusion.

If I were to see trans subtext... I may be wrong but... there's a lot of characters who change over the course of the film into something that is more right for them, almost no one is who they appear at first glance.
 
Sorry for taking ages to get myself writing the review but dear sister Haiku made a beautiful choice and it's another 10. Possibly the best of my 10s. It's a little difficult to talk about what I've liked in this one without repeating my previous reviews, especially cause all the elements I have loved before are also found here. But there's great warmth in this one. I feel like it does have a heart. And it makes me smile writing this because pretty much the story revolves around having a heart. I really don't want to focus on the similarities with the other ghibli films, they are there, it's just that this is a standalone masterpiece where everything is top class, the characters, the fairytale, the places, the animation, the details, the music, the colours. I've found myself thinking what a shame it is that I don't have any kids to share this with.
 
OK so here are my thoughts:
Absolutely a pure blissful gem. There's so many different elements to it that I like. The brilliant storytelling that keeps you hooked and wanting to find out more. The stunning visual art, effects and animation that flow so seamlessly and compliments to the beautiful vision and fairy-tale feeling to the viewer. The fantastic set of characters who all add something different to the story and have a certain uniqueness to them that keeps intrigued and enamoured by their personalities and goals in the tale. and the music is absolutely a masterclass in creating a timeless soundtrack to accompany the story.

Very enjoyable, ashamed it took me this long to finally see the film but will definitely be going back to it more. It's got so much heart and spirit put into, it really manages to capture the power of other Studio Ghibli feel while standing on it's own footing effortlessly and stunningly.
 
It doesn't have to do with how much I liked the film but there was one particular line that I'll probably be thinking about for days.
It was the "old people just want to sit and stare at the scenery" :redface: :shock:
I don’t even remember that :D

You girls don’t even know what’s coming next (but you will later today?)
 
As much as I hate how food isn’t food any more, it’s just things for Instagram… this is :disco:

 

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