MARINA - Electra Heart sync & general chat

[octophone]

"..and the day has come where I have died...only to find I've come alive".

Devastating.

 

[Cerro de Casa]

If Starring Role was a woman on the edge of a cliff, Teen Idle is her looking up at you from the depth of the abyss.
Grasping.
Choking.
Bleeding.


But alive.

 

[COB]

PowerAND CONTROL


is that one. And yes I see you @Beverley and @COB

Peeping in from the Pala Olimpico Torino! Beats the warm-up from the Eurovision DANCERS

 

[Jark]

Teen Idle is completely next level. a once in a career kinda song that serenely TRANSCENDS.

so much going on it's hard to pinpoint a best bit but FEELIN' SUPER SUPER SUUUPERRR!!! will never not slay this gay.

she doesn't give it too many live outings these days which is a shame. she said she was encouraged to leave it off the album because it was too dark. stupid fucks.

10 Bubblegum Bitch
11 Primadonna
09 Lies
08 Homewrecker
09 Starring Role
08.5 The State of Dreaming
10.5 Power & Control
08 Living Dead
11 Teen Idle

 

[RJN]

Could’ve waited until we’d finished with Eurovision

Sync listens happen when and where @Jark says and the rest of us just have to make it work

 

[Saltwater]

"Teen Idle" still sends a shiver through me from the moment it starts.

Same with me, all through the end.

 

[octophone]

Teen Idle is a fucking masterpiece. Apparently she's been playing it on this tour as well.

 

[Cerro de Casa]

The FACT that cisgendered heteronormative patriarchy dismissed this work of genius ten years ago only proves everything we are going through in 2022.

 

[COB]

Absolutely cannot describe just how important Teen Idle is to me - very few songs have the effect on me that it does (see also Catatonia's Strange Glue for another)

 

[Jark]

If Starring Role was a woman on the edge of a cliff, Teen Idle is her looking up at you from the depth of the abyss.
Grasping.
Choking.
Bleeding.


But alive.

yes.

actually it has remarkably similar energy to The Blackest Day by ms LDR.

 

[Beverley]

Sync listens happen when and where @Jark says and the rest of us just have to make it work

@Jark probably learnt her lesson from the last time she hosted a sync for me and I made it two hours late.

 

[COB]

The FACT that cisgendered heteronormative patriarchy dismissed this work of genius ten years ago only proves everything we are going through in 2022.

I remember some absolute cunt of a DJ on 6 Music scoffing about it being at #1 that week, @Kate to apologise quite frankly.

 

[Cerro de Casa]

@Jark probably learnt her lesson from the last time she hosted a sync for me and I made it two hours late.

 

[Cerro de Casa]

Sorry but to go from Teen Idle to Vally of Dolls?
What did I say?
What was that again?
Oh yes YOUR FAVES COULD NEVER.

 

[RJN]

@Jark probably learnt her lesson from the last time she hosted a sync for me and I made it two hours late.

That’s part of the FUN. You never know when he’ll forget about it entirely

 

[Beverley]

I’m not a massive fan of the production on this album, but the songwriting is probably her strongest?

 

[octophone]

Valley of the Dolls is well placed. We need a breather and it's too good to be a 'filler'.

 

[Jark]

I also absolutely stan and adore Valley of the Dolls. quite a MYSTERIOUS energy... a dark song, with some rays of light and notes of hope... more a Lynchian love letter to the city of angels and all its absurdities.

in the valley...
HEE HEEEE

chorus is a deep deep mood.

10 Bubblegum Bitch
11 Primadonna
09 Lies
08 Homewrecker
09 Starring Role
08.5 The State of Dreaming
10.5 Power & Control
08 Living Dead
11 Teen Idle
10 Valley of the Dolls

 

[Saltwater]

12 Bubblegum Bitch
12 Primadonna
10 Lies
10 Homewrecker
08 Starring Role
10 The State of Dreaming
10 Power & Control
10 Living Dead
12x12 Teen Idle
10 Valley of the Dolls

 

[RJN]

12 Bubblegum Bitch
12 Primadonna
10 Lies
10 Homewrecker
08 Starring Role
10 The State of Dreaming
10 Power & Control
10 Living Dead
12x12 Teen Idle
10 Valley of the Dolls

Sorry what? Starring Role an 8?

 

[octophone]

Hypocrates still doesn't do it for me. Feels out of place too.

 

[RJN]

There’s something early 2000s about Hypocrates that I really enjoy

 

[Cerro de Casa]

Hypocrates still doesn't do it for me. Feels out of place too.

Same. Weakest link.

 

[Saltwater]

Sorry what? Starring Role an 8?

Using eurovision metric system.

 

[Jark]

Hypocrates is so sweet. is it thematically related to Electra Heart? not sure. but gorgeous song nonetheless.

despite starting strong and never really dipping I do think she saves the best for the last third of this album and I love the CONFIDENCE OF THAT!

10 Bubblegum Bitch
11 Primadonna
09 Lies
08 Homewrecker
09 Starring Role
08.5 The State of Dreaming
10.5 Power & Control
08 Living Dead
11 Teen Idle
10 Valley of the Dolls
10 Hypocrates

 

[Jark]

the moment when she lowers the key of the "who are you to tell me" melody for the outro is SUBLIME

 

[Cerro de Casa]

Fear
&
Loathing


Is that one.

If I could @ myself I would.

 

[octophone]

"Fear & Loathing" is a genuine Desert Island Disc for me. A truly important song in my life - goosebumps and shivering, flashbacks to key moments, *that* voice...it's a stunning piece and I;d say she's never bettered this.

2 million/10

 

[Cerro de Casa]

"Not everyone is out to screw you over."


Speak to me Queen.

 

[octophone]

"Instead of constantly exploding" - I don't know if she meant this as repeatedly exploding but the idea of being in a constant state of explosion, stuck in a state of disintegration, is one of the most powerful images of her career.

 

[Cerro de Casa]

I might have some of these lyrics on my tombstone.

 

[Jark]

Fear & Loathing is not my favourite on this record but I do recognise the brilliance of it. it feels like another that is written in the voice of Marina rather than Electra Heart.

I wanna be
completely weightless
I wanna touch
the edge of greatness

you did, Merna, you did

10 Bubblegum Bitch
11 Primadonna
09 Lies
08 Homewrecker
09 Starring Role
08.5 The State of Dreaming
10.5 Power & Control
08 Living Dead
11 Teen Idle
10 Valley of the Dolls
10 Hypocrates
09 Fear & Loathing

 

[Saltwater]

12 Bubblegum Bitch
12 Primadonna
10 Lies
10 Homewrecker
08 Starring Role
10 The State of Dreaming
10 Power & Control
10 Living Dead
12x12 Teen Idle
10 Valley of the Dolls
08 Hypocrates
10 Fear & Loathing

 

[octophone]

This is where the sequencing works best - at the 'end' of it all - all the characters, the 'different lives', the real Marina, still searching for meaning.

The extended versions, of course, completely ruin this effect.

 

[Jark]

rule number ONE...

 

[Cerro de Casa]

Fear & Loathing is basically 94.5 / 10

 

[octophone]

679 did Marina DIRTY over "HTBAH" - such a cock-up. This could have been a proper hit.

 

[RJN]

This is where the sequencing works best - at the 'end' of it all - all the characters, the 'different lives', the real Marina, still searching for meaning.

The extended versions, of course, completely ruin this effect.

That’s why I often don’t listen to bonus tracks with albums

 

[Cerro de Casa]

Rule
Number
1

 

[RJN]

Purely anecdotal, but HTBAH is her song I hear most