Eurovision 2024: Grand Final (8pm BST Sat) (1 Viewer)

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May as well kick this off with the running order

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That seems about right for Israel - put them on early without making it TOO EARLY/OBVIOUS.

Nice draw for Bambie, and a pretty plump spot for Olly(:ken:)

Surely this is between France, Switzerland and Croatia though?
 
Poor Germany following Ukraine

UK not doing too badly out of its first half drawing
 
Looks like the producers are pinning their hopes on a Croatian win.
 
(Of course I'd have rather that killer blow came from closing with Spain/Ireland, but I'm sure I'll manage to cope with the holy hand grenade being entrusted to Kaleen's grasp x)
 
Amazed that Ukraine have been shoved in second; I wonder if the delegation had a quiet word saying they don’t really want to be involved in hosting next year? Otherwise that’s a massive two fingers up to the song that was top four in the odds.
 
Looks like they’re happy for it to be a fight between Croatia, Switzerland and France. I fear Luxembourg may be coming last :(
 
D1ZZY said:
Amazed that Ukraine have been shoved in second; I wonder if the delegation had a quiet word saying they don’t really want to be involved in hosting next year? Otherwise that’s a massive two fingers up to the song that was top four in the odds.
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My immediate suspicion is that it's probably more an indicator that after last year, the powers that be had a quiet word with themselves saying that they really don't want the Ukrainian broadcaster (or likely the accompanying very frequent recurring bolt-from-the-sky political interventions/negotiating gambits from the highest levels of the Ukrainian state) involved in a co-hosting dynamic next year - or really probably ever again until the war's over and they can feel like they can enter that arrangement without so much of the interaction being done publicly (and usually explicitly to ends that they should get to use the thing more overtly as a propaganda cudgel), quite frankly :D
 
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auretz said:
Looks like they’re happy for it to be a fight between Croatia, Switzerland and France. I fear Luxembourg may be coming last :(
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I'd be surprised if the juries don't have Luxembourg at least coming back home to a COOKED DINNER after their first day back at school!

God magine the sheer DELICIOUS INDIGNITY of having them just get back to a key on the latch and a note saying DINNER'S IN THE FREEZER (boil in the bag Monge haddock in hollandaise, natch :disco:) [rough equivalent cash value: complete shunning bar~20pts from French and Belgian juries; mixture of pity and disdain from Azeri jury for alluding to bribery at tenth of standard going rate and in tone of Kala taking to drug dealer]
 
I guess it’s got me right behind a Croatia win, though, which certainly wasn’t happening earlier in the week.
 
Why placing Greece and Italy so close to each other when they’re practically performing two versions of the same song? :(
 
Overall that's a great running order. Minor things I'd change:

Swap Israel and Netherlands. Get Israel out of the way slightly earlier, then sweep over it with the "biggest" song of the first half.

Swap Portugal and Armenia, the two ballads are a bit CLOSE at such a vital point in drinking the show.

Everything else looks like it should work on paper. Austria closing is INSPIRED.

Poor old Raiven getting the dreaded Efendi between-two-favourities slot. :(
 
I know they've been dipping in the odds, but I'm surprised Netherlands, one of the talking points of the year, is being shoved out so early. He didn't even draw first half!
 
RaspberrySwirl said:
Why placing Greece and Italy so close to each other when they’re practically performing two versions of the same song? :(
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Greece is a WARNING AND OMEN to Italy to affirm that everything's she's doing tonight is fine and alright in moderation (alongside a balanced diet of exercise, nuts and pulses, and prayer), but that she'd better THINK ON if she's starting to get them out on Tuesdays as well as every weekend and skimp on the sunflower seeds because HERE'S LIFE AT 37 DOWN THAT ROAD
 
Maria Magdasheena said:
Yes.

And I’m here.
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I hear you. I’m flying out later (although work may be about to interfere) and I’m not really feeling it. It’s not the general atmosphere around the year for me but more it not being a very good line-up.
 
Plus I don’t drink anymore so don’t even have that
 
T!SCHTER said:
I know they've been dipping in the odds, but I'm surprised Netherlands, one of the talking points of the year, is being shoved out so early. He didn't even draw first half!
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Finland had drawn second half and Croatia was producer's choice which meant second half for them too as the favourite. That meant Netherlands needed to be first half to spread the silly songs out.
 
T!SCHTER said:
Everything else looks like it should work on paper. Austria closing is INSPIRED.
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I was looking last night at the possible closers from the second half / producer's choice options and Austria stood out by a mile as the most sensible option. Lithuania would have been an amazing closer but they drew first half :(
 
D1ZZY said:
Finland had drawn second half and Croatia was producer's choice which meant second half for them too as the favourite. That meant Netherlands needed to be first half to spread the silly songs out.
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I know, I'm just surprised they went for FIFTH as opposed to like 9th or 10th.
 
Penelope Will Rave said:
My immediate suspicion is that it's probably more an indicator that after last year, the powers that be had a quiet word with themselves saying that they really don't want the Ukrainian broadcaster (or likely the accompanying very frequent recurring bolt-from-the-sky political interventions/negotiating gambits from the highest levels of the Ukrainian state) involved in a co-hosting dynamic next year - or really probably ever again until the war's over and they can feel like they can enter that arrangement without so much of the interaction being done publicly (and usually explicitly to ends that they should get to use the thing more overtly as a propaganda cudgel), quite frankly :D
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That's all well and good, but I want my tenner back please :evil:
 
Of course it does make so much sense though and doesn't seem shocking. Had a feeling that something would be done to curtail a Ukrainian victory - I thought it would be conveniently lower jury scores (which could still happen too), but this feels a much clearer indication.

That said...when was the last time the "death slot" was even tested? It's still an amazing package, Ukrainian support will likely still be high, and who knows if the voting opening early might impact things. I can't see it flopping, but I guess the win has gone, which is all anyone cares about I suppose.
 
Finland look quite DANGEROUS in that slot it must be said. Don't underestimate how many casuals will eat that up. Plum spot and sandwiched between two ballads as well. Top 5 could be on the cards

*comes last*
 
Looks like Croatia have it sewn up from that. I can imagine it getting the largest jury score out of all the noisy entries.
 
Actually, another change I'd like to propose to Mr Osterdahl if anyone has his email or his Grindr, is to swap Armenia and Georgia.

The Armenian song CRIES to be played out near the end where you're not really sure what's going on anymore and the drunk straights at your party are finally on your level.
 
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Not sure that run from Lithuania to Ireland is ideal for those four songs, but this is all a bit overanalysing now :D It was always going to be tricky with so many uptempo/loud numbers

I wonder if that's a TAD too late for France
 
T!SCHTER said:
Actually, another change I'd like to propose to Mr Osterdahl if anyone has his email or his Grindr, is to swap Armenia and Georgia.

The Armenian song CRIES to be played out near the end where you're not really sure what's going on anymore and the drunk straights at your party are finally on your level.
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Agreed. Armenia would be a better closer than Austria IMO. Austria is such a get the party started kind of song that it feels a bit weird to play it when the party is over (sorry Belgium).
 
LoooooOOOOOooooOOOooocille said:
Anyone else quietly DREADING this now?

:RictusRoop:
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We've been very tempted to fork out for final tickets since we're here, but honestly, there's actually some relief that we're not.

I think we've already made the commitment to go the live final next year though, which I'm sure will be drama free with not a single ominous shadow hanging over the contest

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