"I think Kylie and I had gone as far as we could at that point. We had begun to repeat ourselves, and some things felt a bit stale or uninspired. Time just took its course. Learning new things had always been important to me, like directing a show or photography or creating a brand, just something new. When the learning stopped, it became more like a job, and certain parts of that job became less and less rewarding, and we were friends first and foremost; we are still friends.
When I stopped working with Kylie, I felt like 25 years had just passed. I’d look back, and half my life felt a bit of a blur. I only thought about the passing of time afterwards because the work was constant and all-consuming. It was my life; I didn’t do anything else. I also worked with many other artists simultaneously, but it was mainly focused around Kylie. That’s when I realised I’d lost touch with many friends. I didn’t have much of a life outside that work. It was a fantastic time, but I’d lost touch with real-life things. "